THE BIG CHILL IN OSLO
December 14, 2009
I guess President Barack Obama has never read Benjamin Franklin’s maxim, “there never was a good war, or a bad peace.”
Obama’s speech in Oslo proclaiming Afghanistan a “good” war and trying to justify US global military operations echoes to America’s detriment around Europe and, more important, the Muslim world.
 
The president’s address dismayed many who foolishly hoped the “anti-war” president might curb or even end his wars because of a highly politicized and leftish Swedish award. Not so. America’s military-industrial-financial juggernaut continues to roll on.   
 
But what could Obama do? Unwilling to turn down the award he did not solicit, the president had to turn up in Oslo and accept a peace prize as he was widening and deepening the Afghanistan war. In retrospect, he probably should have turned the prize down, saying, as he did at Oslo, that he has not yet done enough to merit such an award.
 
Instead, President Obama delivered an oration that at times sounded as if it had been lifted from George Orwell’s prescient novel, “1984.”
 
War is peace, explained the president. Conflict, he asserted, had to be relentlessly waged by the west (“Oceana” to Orwell, the union of the United States and Britain) in the Muslim world (Orwell called it “Eurasia”) until the dire threat of al-Qaida is eliminated. Of course, the threat never ends and low-grade war becomes permanent, justifying dictatorship and endless arms contracts for industry.
 
Al-Qaida barely exists as an organization, though its philosophy of driving the US from the Muslim world continues to motivate a scattering of tiny, anti-American groups in Asia and Africa who are a minor, if occasionally spectacular, nuisance rather than a major threat.
 
So here was a major untruth from the president who had vowed to tell Americans the true after eight years of lies and prevarications from the previous administration.
 
The “New York Times,” an ardent liberal backer of wars in the Muslim world, arrogantly editorialized on 14 December that Europe was delinquent in supporting the Afghan War. The “Times” hectored Europe’s leaders to “educate” their citizens in the need for war in Afghanistan.  But the problem is that Europeans are too well educated. A majority see Afghanistan as a traditional colonial war being waged for energy resources and imperial strategy in which their continent has no business at all.   
 
The political big chill that came from Oslo left many Americans and Europeans wondering just who was really in charge of US foreign policy. Readers of George Orwell might suspect that real power in Washington is wielded by the same kind of hidden oligarchy he described in “1984” that conjured fear of foreigners and drove permanent war policy.  
 
Could the former civil rights worker from Chicago’s roughest section really be speaking with the same voice as Wall Street’s money barons, pro-war neocons, and the military-industrial complex about which the foresighted President Dwight Eisenhower warned the nation?   What happened to the man only lately denounced by Republicans as a “socialist” and “appeaser?”
 
Are Americans victims of a presidential bait and switch? Obama is maintaining or advancing so many of Bush’s hard right domestic and foreign policies that one indeed wonders of we are seeing Bush’s third term.  
 
If President Obama ended the futile, eight-year war in Afghanistan against Pashtun tribesmen, he would of course face Republican charges of defeatism, appeasement and “losing Afghanistan.” Republicans are already battering him with spurious claims of “their” victory in Iraq thanks to the “surge” advocated by Senator John McCain.   American soldiers and Afghan civilians will pay the price for this lack of political courage in Washington – to say nothing of  US relations with the Muslim world which sees Afghanistan as a martyr nation ravaged by western forces. 
 
Adding to this miasma of untruth, the US commander in Afghanistan, Gen. Stanley McChrystal, just proclaimed that the US had “won” the war in Iraq, and was now about to work the same military magic in Afghanistan. The notion of a US victory in Iraq has become common currency in Washington and the media, justifying another “surge’ in Afghanistan.
 
To quote the great Roman historian Tactius, “they make a desert, and call it peace.”   Such is the US supposed US victory in Iraq that now looms over Afghanistan. Let’s look at this Carthaginian Peace:
 
*Iraq  effectively sundered into three de facto independent parts: a Shia region; Sunni region; and Kurdistan. The US vowed never to do this – but did, turning it into a weak, obedient Petrolistan.     
 
*The world’s biggest refugee problem. Four million Iraq refugees created during the US occupation. Two million in neighboring Arab nations; two million internal refugees, victims of ethnic cleansing.   Massive flight of intellectuals and trained personnel. Over 2,300 Iraqi doctors  murdered.  
 
*After rightly bombing Serbia to stop its attempted genocide against Balkan Muslims, the US closed its eyes to massive atrocities and ethnic cleansing of Sunni civilians committed by Shia death squads, run by the US-installed Shia regime.  
 
*Iraq is now in worse shape then it was before the US invasion, terrorized by criminal gangs, death squads and local warlords. What was in 2000 the Arab world’s most advanced nation in terms of education, technology, public health and industry, today lies in ruins.   Its rich oil field are about to be exploited by foreign firms, many from the US and Britain.  
 
No one knows how many Iraqis have been killed or maimed. Estimates run from 100,000 to one million. What is a known, to use Rummy’s delightful phrase, is that the Iraq War has cost the US $1 trillion to date. Important numbers of US troops and tens of thousands of US-paid mercenaries look likely to remain in Iraq for many years on “training” and oilfield protection missions.
 
Such is Gen. Chrystal and Sen. John McCain’s “victory.” This is what awaits Afghanistan in President Obama’s version of a “good” war.
 
Copyright Eric S. Margolis 2009
 
         
Archie Knaud
Monday, December 14, 2009 5:01 PM
Why do I get the feeling that we are at the start of something much larger? I fear that POWERFULL FORCES are about to "make it clear to us "that an escalation is our only option. My money is on 600,000 on the ground within two years and a draft in order to facilitate it.I hope I'm wrong.
Saan
Tuesday, December 15, 2009 1:49 AM
This article is filled with a few correct things but is mostly utter nonsense. Yes, Obama has not lived up to what he talked about before but to comparing him to Orwellian or even Bush is totally ridiculous. Unlike Eric's favorite European countries, America under Obama has shown much more respect and goodwill towards Muslim world. But Obama has failed on Palestine, yes that is true.

Now with Afghanistan and Pakistan. I am Muslim and I know with 100% certainty that no-one in the Muslim world sympathizes with the Taliban who are despised by most Pakistanis and Afghans (including Pashtuns). And there are two "Talibans", the ethnic Pashtun nationalists who mainly want to get rid of foreign troops and not impose a real medieval system, and the true fanatics who use religion to take power and impose the worst of Pashtun customs on the people. I do however believe that Afghans should take over their own security. They have the men and the equipment.

In Iraq the Sunnis were expelled, but it was through foolish and criminal actions of Sunni extremists that lead to that. If they did not try blowing up Shiites and their mosques perhaps things would have been different (I'm not Shiite by the way).

Eric may be shedding a river of tears for the Taliban but in fact nobody cares about them, but there are people out there who care about Afghans and don't think that they should be abandoned to wolves and hyenas that circle their unfortunate homeland, once again.

And please stop propagating nonsensical conspiracy theories you read in fringe Pakistani press. America is not responsible for all the goes wrong there, in fact they would have this problem with or without America since it is a group of fanatics trying to take power from the government and the government is fighting back. And you know what, most Pakistanis support them because they are fed up being told that those who are blowing them up in markets and mosques have their best interests at heart, it does not take a genius to figure out that that is not true.
Marietta Khan
Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:32 AM
Right so Saan, especially your last part of the comment. Margolis, probably does not know what happened in Swat. He does not know that they behaeded people, drag them through the streets, burnt down girls' schools, closed down barber shops, looted and thrashed around, or maybe he does not want to know...
TMK
Tuesday, December 15, 2009 1:04 PM
I don't think you understood Eric's article!
Doctor Z
Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:08 PM
Closed down barber shops .... the horror!!! the horror!!!

Seriously Marietta, you need to differentiate between the Afghan Taliban and the so called Pakistani Taliban. They are not the same and never were. The Pakistani Taliban are a bunch of opportunistic criminal warlords much like those found in Karzai's cabinet. And urged on by the US, India and Israel through heavy financing to destablize Pakistan and make it obidient to western interest. Their interest isn't to establish shariat in Pakistan or anywhere else. They use fake Islamic propaganda to coax young men into becoming suicide bombers, by telling them, for example, that all Pakistanis are hypocrites (since they are fighting America's war) and those who let them live are also hypocrites. Just look at all the suicide bombings that killed no one but other Muslims. No Muslim fundamentalist can ever condone that.
TMK
Tuesday, December 15, 2009 1:04 PM
I don't think you understood Eric's article!
Abumoosa
Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:28 PM
Another graet article Mr. Margolis

I knew that president BOshama would never say that he is not worthy of peace prize at oslo.
he doesn't think. he follows instructions
Abumoosa
Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:29 PM
with all due rspect Mr. SAAN,
i don't know what kind of muslim world you are talking about who respect U.S or president BOshama
why don't you give it a thought that where ever US goes, problem erupts. why, why they just don't mind their own business
what pakistani nation wants is not what you or pakistani licking expert politician or army Generals (World reknown baggers) are saying.
Qouting Mr. margolis words that leave afghanistan ( and pakistan) alone, they will decide what is right for them.
and let american know to get out from afghanistan as soon as possible for their own sake
thanks
i hope you are not one of those Mr Saan, who get compensation to write these stories about muslim world

thanks
FromNowhere
Tuesday, December 15, 2009 10:07 AM
Interesting Eric! You said that the US has rightly bombed Serbia, but you quote Benjamin Franklin that "there never was a good war, or a bad peace". I guess Serbia is an exception to that rule.

How about that I paraphrase it to "the US has rightly bombed Afghanistan to stop the harassment of Afghan women...or to stop the attempted genocide of Pushtuns against other minorities like Hazars, Tajiks". Or maybe "The US has rightly bombed Iraq to stop the attempted genocide against the Iraqi Kurds or Shias"?
Your articles are a product of your own opinions and a propaganda of its own, as much as I enjoy them from time to time. Perhaps you need to re-read Benjamin Franklin.
TMK
Tuesday, December 15, 2009 1:04 PM
I don't think you understood Eric's article!
FromNowhere
Tuesday, December 15, 2009 4:02 PM
Can you please tell me what did I not understand?
TMK
Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:06 PM
Do you seriously think that the US government is in Afghanistan to help its people? No, they are there to enhance their imperial interests in the region.
Second, Obama is doing what Bush has been doing for the last eight years and does he deserve peace Prize?
Third, he is introducing morality into war and peace exactly the way his predecessor did.
Fourth, did they achieve peace in Afghanistan and you know the security situation in Afghanistan. The puppet Karzai is called "Mayor of Kabul" and American security guards him all the time.
Think on these things!! For example, is American serious about improving Afghan people's life????
FromNowhere
Friday, December 18, 2009 1:36 PM
I think you need to read my comments again because you obviously didn't get my point. I agree with every point you make in the comment above, that is not what I am trying to say.
I am going to paraphrase your questions above to "Do you seriously think the US government bombed Serbia and recognized Kosovo independence to help Albanians in Kosovo? You don't think they did that to enhance their imperial interests in the region? Serbia was the only country that didn't apply for NATO membership nor did it acknowledge US "as its boss", so to speak. And the only country in the region still having cozy relations with Russia. Guess where the larges US base built from the scratch since the Vietnam war is? It is the Bondsteel base in Kosovo, built on a land leased for 100 years, few years before Kosovo was declared independent. They leveled the whole mountain to build it."
That is my point! Eric is quoting Benjamin Franklin that "there never is a good war or bad peace" and then in the same article calls US bombing of Serbia a good thing. Then why is Eric different than Obama when he called Afghanistan "the just war", Eric just did the same thing. Didn't he?
Edward
Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:28 PM
Well, the war on the Balkans was bad but the US intervention was good. Is it so difficult to grasp? Sometimes a very bad guy does a good thing.
FromNowhere
Wednesday, December 16, 2009 8:42 AM
On the very first line of this article, Eric quotes Benjamin Franklin that "there never was a good war, or a bad peace.” and now you are telling me that the US intervention was "good". Do you agree with this statement, does Eric agrees? That is the premise of this article. Or do you (and Eric) think that "there ALMOST never is a good war or bad peace"? If so, than what is the difference between Serbs harassing Albanians in Kosovo and Iraqi Sunnis harassing and killing Kurds?
Edward
Wednesday, December 16, 2009 12:30 PM
The difference is that in the Balkans it was Serbian Government in control of the "harassment" (interesting euphemism).
FromNowhere
Wednesday, December 16, 2009 12:56 PM
And in Iraq and Afghanistan, was it not the Saddam's Sunni government and the Taliban Pushtun government (they were running the place, so they were the government)?
Call it "harassment" or whatever you want, I have no opinion on Serbian murders. I have an opinion on Eric quoting Benjamin Franklin and having a double standard when it comes to Serbia.
carolt
Tuesday, December 15, 2009 12:05 PM
How was it possible for the US to "win" the war in Iraq when war was never declared? What did they actually "win"? The right to invade any country on trumped-up charges fabricated to appease Americans hungry for Muslim blood after 9/11? It seems this is the case as they continue to invade (but not declare war on) other Muslim countries. US Generals publicly claim the surge is necessary to protect strategic assets. How is that any different from Saddam's invasion of Kuwait? Predator drone attacks and targeted assassinations are also illegal under American law but Obama publicly announces that he will continue to use these illegal tactics. Do Americans simply not believe in their own laws anymore?
TMK
Tuesday, December 15, 2009 1:02 PM
Very well written article but unfortunately few comments below did not understand Eric's message! Please read it again and think!
Edward
Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:30 PM
I agree with TMK 100%.
lord anthony
Wednesday, December 16, 2009 8:20 PM
If Obama had any class he would have advised the Nobel committee at the outset:
"thanks but no thanks, I'm honoured and all that, but at this moment I have to decide on how many tens of thousands of additional blood-spillers to send to Afghanistan.
Thirty? Forty? Fifty? I don't know yet.
Obviously, I'm not the Prince of Peace...."

But he took the same path as St. Nobel-Oscar Al of Gore.
Form without content.

Both promote themselves from outside the democratic box they pimp so enthusiastically.

Hypocrites.



Waris
Wednesday, December 16, 2009 9:42 PM
Could pragmatic Obama be a victim of national policy objectives or unipolar world order? Probably, the national policy objectives do not change with different governments of any state. Like every established empire of the past, US is following the same gods; control of the natural resources and securing the continuation of the system..

I doubt if Ron Paul would have done any different than Obama. Military-industrial-financial groups do make the dent and can intoxicate any brain.

Thank God tribal Afghans do not have tanks and aeroplanes, as for generations their national policy had only been WAR!

Very first time, US is physically fiddling with a nuclear armed state. It is yet to be seen how well it gets played. I hope and pray it fails, or else Iran is next in this "good" war.

Archie Knaud
Friday, December 18, 2009 10:26 AM
There could be peace in the Middle East.IF all of the nations of the Middle East bow down to America,renounce their way of life and agree to work for low wages in factories producing goods for America and the Western powers.Kinda like China.As soon as China begs us for our forgiveness over their HUMAN RIGHTS abuses and of course Communism then they will be "OK".Repaired if you will.For now we must bomb all dissenters untill they see the light.Oh by the way the American people will be more than happy to pay for it.Health care can wait we need to assert our will on others and that is very expensive of course.
PaulW
Sunday, December 20, 2009 9:25 PM
I have occasionally wondered who Ron Paul would behave if he was President. It would appear a valid point that it doesn't matter what personality is in the White House. Nevertheless Dr.Paul is unique because he is a reformer - the best reason why he'll never be President. On the other hand Obama is not a reformer. He has one reform issue(health care) but that's it. Obama was an agreeable candidate for the Democratic party which was as sure a sign as anything that he was not a reformer. Meanwhile Paul's republican candidacy had no chance because he was actually a libertarian conservative, which made him a reformer. Obama is a black man with establishment politics. He never offered any real hope for change.

I wouldn't downplay Ron Paul as a reform President who would actually change things. Of course that potential means he'll never be President. Consequently we'll never know.
Waris
Monday, December 21, 2009 2:35 PM
if a reformist can never be a president then what is in question; people who vote, king makers or the electoral system itself?

addley
Saturday, December 19, 2009 5:48 PM
Eric's contrast of Obama to Orwell's 1984 is accurate.

In 1984 the enemy was either Eurasia or Eastasia - it didn't matter. It changed often and was the reason to rally the sheeple against some phoney terrorist leader who, "mysteriously escaped and disappeared."

"The programmes of the Two Minutes Hate varied from day to day, but there was none in which Goldstein was not the principal figure. He was the primal traitor, the earliest defiler of the Party's purity. All subsequent crimes against the Party, all treacheries, acts of sabotage, heresies, deviations, sprang directly out of his teaching. Somewhere or other he was
still alive and hatching his conspiracies: perhaps somewhere beyond the sea, under the protection of his foreign paymasters, perhaps even -- so it was occasionally rumoured -- in some hiding-place in Oceania itself."

The parallel to Osama bin Laden, who too, mysteriously escaped and disappeared and now allegedly shows up occasionally to offer renewed fear is chilling. The sheeple buy this. Hence, Big Brother has accomplished his task.

The sheeple go along with The Ministry of Truth - Fox News and CNN - and believe the Global Ware on Terror exists. They have fallen into line and given up their liberties for a phoney threat.

Anyone that does question the terror plots or is anti-war, anti-Bush and now anti-Obama and comes under the surveillance of The Thought Police - The Department of Homeland Security.

Interesting is that journalist Greg Palast observes that 9/11, according to the Bush administration was by Muslims hating our freedoms but that it is the U.S. citizens who are perceived as guilty and and must give up their freedoms... nothing has or will change under Obama...
Archie Knaud
Sunday, December 20, 2009 1:12 PM
Well put Addley.It should be noted however, that there may be GOOD reasons for NATO to be in Afghanistan.It may be a truley justified occupation.Maybe one day the Afghan people will live in harmony with the west and all of this will be forgotten and forgiven.Then they will all have good jobs and bungalows and two cars and 2.2 kids each,university educated of course, both boys and girls.They will collect baseball cards and watch the NFL and live happily ever after and we will love them all............naaaaaaaa. No,we are circling Iran. Bases in both Iraq and Afghanistan are too be modern ,well equiped and fully supplied.Troops are to arrive over the next few years and "order" will be maintained.Obama is the salesman of this NEW WORLD ORDER
CalmCalm
Sunday, December 20, 2009 12:35 AM
American's are always hiding behind the skirts of women.
http://www.pair-annoyed.com:9090/FORUM-DATABASE/showthread.php?p=48888

All those people who talk about the horrific incidents within Afghanistan and demonize Muslims should take a look at the gang crisis within America itself. American woman can't even walk the streets without being assaulted in gang infested cities.
http://www.pair-annoyed.com:9090/FORUM-DATABASE/showthread.php?t=3945

Calm


PaulW
Sunday, December 20, 2009 9:38 PM
I do appreciate the comments FromNowhere. There is an obvious contradiction in Mr.Margolis' position because of his pro-war stance on Serbia. Hey nobody is perfect, not even a great thinker like Eric Margolis. Even he has his personal biases - his anti-Serbian position dates back to 1914! I consider it constructive criticism to point out any inconsistencies so that Mr.Margolis can eliminate them in the future.

Kosovo is unique. During Milosevic's time in power the ethnic Albanian population increased while the ethnic Serbian population decreased. Yet the justification for war was to stop the ethnic clensing and genocide against the ethnic Albanians. Never before have I witnessed ethnic clensing where the victim population continuously increases for an entire decade. Remarkable!

I think people need to try and be more consistent. They lied about Afghanistan and having proof of bin Laden's involvement in 9/11, they lied about Saddam and Iraq, they continue to lie about who breaks the ceasefires in Gaza(approximately 80% of calm periods were ended by IDF violence) and they're lying about Iran now. Yet they didn't lie about Serbia/Kosovo? You really think so?
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