MUSLIM WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION
NEW YORK March 09, 2009
As America struggles with its debt-ravaged economy and surging unemployment, Iran and its alleged nuclear weapons program have again become an issue of major contention.
In recent weeks, Obama administration officials and the media issued a blizzard of contradictory claims over Iran’s alleged nuclear threat,  leaving one wondering who is really charge of US foreign policy?
 
This awkward question was underlined during British Prime Minister Gordon Brown’s state visit to Washington.  Britain is supposed to be America’s most important ally and partner in their `special relationship.’
 
Brown’s reception was dismal and Obama’s obvious lack of interest in Britain’s leader quite embarrassing. The British media slammed America’s cold reception as an `insult,’ and claimed Brown had been treated like the leader of a `minor African state.’ White House aides excused the huge diplomatic faux pas by claiming President Obama was worn out from dealing with the financial and economic crisis. I’m sure he is worn out, but this still does not bode well for the conduct of US foreign policy.  
 
Much of the uproar over Iran’s so-far non-existent nuclear weapons must be seen as part of efforts by neocons  to thwart President Obama’s proposed opening to Tehran, and to keep up the pressure for an American attack on Iran.   
 
Israel’s American supporters and Israel’s government insist Iran has secret nuclear weapons program that the West has not yet detected. We heard the same claims from the same source about Iraq before 2003.   Israel certainly knows about covert nuclear programs, having run one of the world’s largest and most productive ones.    
 
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton lived up to her growing reputation for Mideast hawkishness by naming prominent Israel supporter Dennis Ross as her Special Advisor on Iran and the Gulf. This appointment suggests she may be more interested in building future domestic  political support than securing balanced advice and even-handed action on the Mideast.  
 
At least Ross is considered something of a moderate in the Israeli spectrum, having long been regarded as the Labor Party’s `man in Washington.’ During the Bush years,  Israel’s centrist Laborites in Washington were replaced by partisans of the rightwing Likud Party, who quickly came to dominate administration Mideast policy.       
 
In recent weeks, official Washington has been locked in confusion over Iran.
 
The new CIA director, Leon Panetta, said in an interview, `there is no question, they (Iran) are seeking that (nuclear weapons)  capability.’ 
 
Pentagon chief  Adm. Mike Mullen claimed Iran had `enough fissile material to build a bomb.’  Fox News trumpeted that  Iran already had 50 nuclear weapons. 
 
While the American Rome burns,  here we go again with renewed hysteria over MWMD’s - Muslim Weapons of Mass Destruction. The war drums are again beating over Iran.
 
The czar of all 16 US intelligence agencies, Adm. Dennis Blair, stated Iran could have enough enriched uranium for one atomic weapon by 2010-2015. But he reaffirmed the 2007 US National Intelligence Estimate that Iran does not have nuclear weapons and is not pursuing them.  Defense Secretary Robert Gates backed up Blair. So did the UN nuclear agency.  
 
Some of the confusion over Iran comes from misunderstanding nuclear enrichment, domestic politics, and recycled lurid scare stories from the days of Saddam Hussein and his `drones of death.’  
 
Iran is producing low-grade uranium-235 (LEU), enriched to only 2.5%,  to generate electricity.   Tehran has this absolute right under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NNPT). Its centrifuge enrichment process at Nantaz is under 24-hour international inspection.  Iran’s soon to open nuclear plant at Bushehr cannot produce nuclear weapons fuel.  All of its spent fuel, which is under international safeguards, will be returned to supplier Russia.   
 
Today, some 15 nations produce low grade enriched uranium 235(LEU-235) , including Brazil, Argentina, Germany, France, and Japan. While visiting Japan’s defense ministry in Tokyo, I saw plans for an atomic weapon. Experts believe Japan could produce a nuclear warhead in within three months, if it so decided. 
 
I also believe – though cannot prove – that Switzerland may have produced a few nuclear warheads in the early 1960’s and keeps them in one of its secret mountain forts as a sort of doomsday device. 
 
Israel, India and Pakistan are all covert nuclear weapons powers and have refused to submit to international inspection.  North Korea abrogated it.
 
Interestingly, rather than the much pilloried Iran, the original nuclear powers, it is the United States, USSR/Russia/ Britain, France and China, who are all in violation of the nuclear arms treaty. The NNPT called for all nuclear powers to rapidly eliminate their nuclear forces. President Dwight Eisenhower championed this position. Far from eliminating their nuclear forces, all of the nuclear powers have expanded and modernized them.
 
UN inspectors report Iran has produced 1,010 kg of 2-3% enriched uranium (LEU). Iran insists it is for energy generation. Theoretically that is enough for one atomic bomb. 
 
But to make a nuclear weapon, U-235 must be enriched to over 90% in an  elaborate, costly process. Iran is not doing so, say UN inspectors, though they have raised certain technical questions about Iran’s nuclear process.   Some believe Iran may go up to `breakout position,’ that is, having the components to assemble a weapon on fairly short notice. 
 
Highly enriched U-235 or plutonium must then be milled and shaped into a perfect ball or cylinder.  Any surface imperfections will prevent achieving critical mass.  Next, high explosive lenses must surround the core, and detonate at precisely the same millisecond. In the gun system, two cores must collide at very high speed.  In some cases, a stream of neutrons are pumped into the device as it explodes.
 
This process is highly complex.  Nuclear weapons cannot be deemed reliable unless they are tested. North Korea recently detonated a device that fizzled.  Iran has never built or tested a nuclear weapon.  Israel and South Africa jointly tested a nuclear weapon in 1979.
 
Even if Iran had the capability to fashion a complex nuclear weapon,  it would be useless without delivery.  Iran’s sole medium-range delivery system is its unreliable, inaccurate 1,500 km ranged Shahab-3.  Miniaturizing and hardening nuclear warheads capable of flying atop a Shahab missile is another complex technological challenge.   
 
It is inconceivable that Iran or anyone else would launch a single nuclear weapon.  What if it didn’t go off?  Imagine the embarrassment and the retaliation.  Iran would need at least ten warheads and a reliable delivery system to be a credible nuclear power.
 
Israel, the primary target for any Iranian nuclear strike, has an indestructible triad of air, missile and sea-launched nuclear weapons pointed at Iran.  An Israeli submarine with nuclear cruise missiles is  on station off Iran’s coast.
 
Iran would be wiped off the map by even a few of Israel’s estimated 200 plus nuclear weapons.  Iran is no likelier to use a nuke against its Gulf neighbors. The explosion would blanket Iran with radioactive dust and sand.
 
Finally, while Washington keeps invoking the specter of a nuclear armed Iran, India has quietly developed a large nuclear arsenal and will soon test an intercontinental ballistic missile capable of delivering a nuclear warhead to North America.
 
If Obama and his senior advisors are too bagged out to give a decent state dinner for Gordon Brown, how are they going to handle Tehran’s wily, ultra-difficult ayatollahs?  Iran has cursed every US administration since Jimmy Carter. 
 
Let’s hope President Obama has the good sense to make good on his promises to normalize relations with Iran.   Kicking sand into Iran’s face at a time when the new president is expanding the war in Afghanistan and battling economic doom is a very bad idea.
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copyright  Eric S. Margolis 2009
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Unknown Man
Monday, March 09, 2009 11:39 AM
"Brown’s reception was dismal and Obama’s obvious lack of interest in Britain’s leader quite embarrassing. The British media slammed America’s cold reception as an `insult,’ and claimed Brown had been treated like the leader of a `minor African state.’"

That is exactly how Brown deserves to be treated. The guy is a zionist izreal-loving dog. Britain still is and always will be the 51st American state.
Kevin Sager
Monday, March 09, 2009 1:39 PM
Nontheless, Obama's administration has stumbled in Europe. It's an embarrassment.

Britain, rightly or wrongly has supported the US and deserves better.
Market Socialist
Monday, March 09, 2009 3:39 PM
“As America struggles with its debt-ravaged economy and surging unemployment, Iran and its alleged nuclear weapons program have again become an issue of major contention.”

Very well put Mr. .Margolis, what a great way to divert attention away from the US’s ailing economic situation. Start a war with Iran by having Israel take out the Russian Nuclear facility with the full knowledge that Iran will retaliate on Israel’s nuclear facilities…….presto….the US ruches in to save Israel from those fanatical Iranian.

Only one problem, how would you stop this from escalating to a much wider conflict? Simply put, you can not. But it sure would divert attention away from the money changers and growing US poverty.

Salam is Incognito
Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:22 PM

Wait do not shoot, I am Breathless

Please do not throw the key to unlock the door for peace. What kind of a world does the United States want in the end of this world engineering, where by war strikes at various intervals all over the globe in the name of peace, and under the provisions of International Law…? I lost track of the role of so called UN peace keeping missions. If the US is the world Boss then how about if a new world order must be called upon to accept the fact that USA can Bomb Iran after Iraq’s dusty freakish war has subsided and the mirage of reconciliation under a new Iraqi government is on its way, meanwhile the Iraqi folks must get used to the side road bombs along with the “fantastic” killing machine carried out by suicide extremists.
I once read a book titled: Brave New World, written by Aldous Huxley. Amazing, how the world is in fact being engineered in such a way the have not will die in sorrow and poverty and the so called fortunate few elites will have access to stem cell technology and have the opportunity to book a ticket worth couple of millions to conduct a space tour in the beloved Milky-way which is part of the new era of space aviation trips. Iran is next on the US map to wipe out anti-Semitic governments who do not follow the world new order known as “the join us or perish” the new world submission manual.

Allow me to voice my admiration for the Jewish people who have managed to ride on the US’s wave leading to a fully fledged hegemony. First the reason to wage war in Iraq was of Weapons of mass destruction (deception), then Nuclear weapons or Nuclear capability in Iran, what is next , which government will have to go next or bend over to the historic guillotine?
Mr. Eric Margolis, obviously has a thorough understanding of current affairs. Yet I am wondering is there a way out of this magnificent stupidity. What kind of peace will there ever be in the Middle East after the fact that nations will lose their sovereignty, the economic crisis that started in the USA will manage to wipe out any chance for economic growth. Not too far long ago words like World bank, global economy, open markets, the idea that the world has evolved into a global village has the same effect as a minted sweet sugar chewing gum which finally has lost its artificial flavored sweetness. Welcome to the stale crummy dry bread dipped in powder milk restructuring plans and bail outs. The USA yet again has managed to force the whole universe to be part of a global catastrophe. Again those hit the hardest are the so called developing countries who will be affected the most. Was this monetary crisis designed as a diversion plan to distract attention from George W Bush pathetic reign? Was the economy the stone that finally killed two birds, mainly Bush era and Iraqi disaster? I mean is this the way to go from here? More of the same? more killing, less peace, more deception, more injustice, more global terrorism? Well then may God Bless America … God Bless the King.
Who knows, perhaps Saudi Arabia could be next on this hit list ten years down the road. Another, amazing political development is the recent attempt by the US/UN for a regime change in Sudan, right in the heart of the African Continent. It seems that the UN is busy waging a new Sudan Tribune. Not to mention The Hariri Trial in the Hague is underway which is expected to take at least five years if not more to finding the truth behind assassination. The Sudanese president Omer Hassan Al-Bashir is expected to discredit the ICC indicement, calling for his arrest should he leaves the country. I hope my predictions do not come true but I think the end is near for President Al-Bashir.

I wish for peace but wishes may never come true. The truth is the world is destined for change but what kind of change and what will be the consequences of this change? This is the hundred trillion dollar answer? Please spend it wisely now. Salam
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 6:15 AM
Well-said-But I am not so clear about Israel's motive in really attacking iran, other than israel
wants to keep up the pressure on iran. In addition it wants to ensure perhaps that the american dollars to its war machinery keep coming and are increased. To support this idea there is a lot of collaborative military projects going on. Plus to keep the american public engaged in the mindset about "the dangerous middle east" fear-mongering-
Calvin
Monday, March 09, 2009 5:08 PM
Prime Minister Brown got a dismal reception? Probably because Washington senses he's not going to be a lackey like Blair was. But who really cares. It' is and always will be Israel that has Washington's ear. It doesn't matter if Iran is pursuing nuclear energy for peaceful purposes. If Israel is adamant, Washington can get all the doctored evidence it needs to go to war with Iran. And with Fox News blowing the trumpet, well, what the hell. Makes a good diversion from the false economy the U.S. has been running on for decades.
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:27 AM
There is an old yet quite useful cliche-War is good for economy-This has been
perfected [through incessant/continual/unceasing propaganda] and other
state instruments by first the old-and then the new imperialists-russia, britan, france, and
post-mother of them all the US of A....
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:34 AM
In reply:" While visiting Japan’s defense ministry in Tokyo, I saw plans for an atomic weapon. Experts believe Japan could produce a nuclear warhead in within three months, if it so decided. "
With all due respect, I disagree with your assessment of the time-frame for a nuclear device, it
is probably more like, shorter than a week! You can see that simply by looking at the scientific and technological maturity of Japan- Yet another hint is: They are the leaders in Magnet Technology ! Another is, Japanese always understate their abilities, it is their cultural aspect-Finally they never divulge what they know, unlike the rest of us.
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:40 AM
Excellent Point by Eric, viz: "Finally, while Washington keeps invoking the specter of a nuclear armed Iran, India has quietly developed a large nuclear arsenal and will soon test an intercontinental ballistic missile capable of delivering a nuclear warhead to North America."
I guess perhaps Eric is one of the very few of the Journalists, who understands India and
its ability to project Power-We may add to this as I have in other contexts alluded to it:
Point 1: India is slowly and sometimes not very slowly building itself up to replace
the "the democratic" superpower US of A by itself-
Point 2: It has penetrated the US echelons of power through the powerful Zionist Lobby
in Washington-
Point 3: Richard Nixon was definitely very smart [whether one likes him or not] he once told Henry K. something like "always our ambassador in India is sucked in by Indians..... "
In his own words:
President Nixon says: "I don't want him to come in with that kind of jackass thing with me... Keating, like every ambassador who goes over there, goes over there and gets sucked in."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4633263.stm

Point 4: Now that they have signed the Nuclear Deal with US-they have and will accelerate
their WMD growth very rapidly-you do not have to be a physicist or a nuclear engineer
to know that-

Point 5: It also knows the "crusade" mindset of many policy makers in west and their
common enemy islam/muslims etc-It does and will Play this to a Maximum, and GET
what it Wants-and then Assume the Mantle-

However having said that Iran is a problem BUT not in the way Projected
in the Propaganda News Media=CNN, FOX,...




chatman
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 4:41 PM
You don't hear about it because the West's approach to managing India, or China for that matter, must necessarily be different from its handling of Iran.

I hardly think it inappropriate that over a sixth of the world's population might enjoy the shelter of a nuclear umbrella. India, along with Pakistan, China, and others, are different from Iran in many respects, but one difference is really important. They can no longer be prevented from acquiring what Iran seeks; a credible nuclear deterrent. Since they already have warheads and missiles to deliver them, bona-fide nuclear states are not sensitive to the public opprobrium heaped upon Iran. They also have a lot more diplomatic leverage.

While I am not opposed to an Iranian bomb, your (and Eric's) frequent invocation of India's growing ability to project power improperly compares India to Iran. India's population, diversity, and economic integration creates specific defense requirements which India, like Iran, is entitled to pursue as a massive sovereign state. Does it need to be involved a space race? Probably not. Is it a leviathan nation with a host of grave domestic problems? Most certainly. But that does not obviate its need or sovereign right to implement national military policy involving nuclear weapons.

I have long argued that Iran's nuclear aims, if they exist, are equally legitimate from the standpoint of sovereign rights. However, it's practically easier to intimidate them away from that course when the Iranians aren't close to building a bomb yet. For better or for worse, the Indians are far beyond that point. If India wants to build ICBMs, Western approaches to containing Indian power will necessarily be different (and less publicly excoriating) than those they adopt to harangue Iran away from building a basic bomb.
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Thursday, March 12, 2009 3:26 AM
You have made some useful and good points, that are valid in the "current system" of the world. You are right that India and Iran have to be treated differently, once again, with emphasis, in the CURRENT SYSTEM. What do I mean by the current system?: This is the system of the current UN being used as state instrument by the western powers=us+britan+france:russia+germany mainly and to some extent China.
In this system India cannot be, as you assert "to containing Indian power will necessarily be different (and less publicly excoriating) ". The reason is very simple: This cannot be done since western hegemony and interest must be protected, which is tied with not perturbing India. But in a more Just and Democratic system of the UN as I have suggested, India would be just treated Like Everybody else"

Thus one of the key-point or concern is why the issue is not discussed, in the main media?
Such as why every country is treated differently. If so, then why the system is not changed?. Why the system is kept to keep the WWII allies in continuous state of hegemony. Where they can project illegal power, if need be. Such as the case of Iraq, and Afghanistan. I will first let you answer these questions first. Keep in mind that there are many levers one can use to stop India, if we proceed in an equitable and fair way, as we claim that we are so much civilized. Quite to the contrary it is not so innocent as you seem to be implying. For one India was recently rewarded by signing the nuclear technology deal with the US. This will facilitate further growth of WMDs. This tells us something. One Possibility is that US is counting on India doing its dirty work against the "rogue" countries, and to draw a wedge between India and China. It is obvious that this unjust system has to be corrected. This is enough for now.
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Tuesday, March 10, 2009 4:20 AM
Another Potential Dangerous Twist: Space Militarization: The Russians are now saying that, they cannot just sit back and let US of A do Space Militarization: Russian deputy defense minister, General Valentin Popovkin, said while Russia opposes a space arms race, it would not let steps by other countries toward space militarization go unanswered, Russian news agencies reported.
"We can't sit back and quietly watch others doing that; such work is being conducted in Russia," said Gen. Popovkin.

Relating this to the Current Topic Muslim WMD:
I guess that is understandable, everyone has some defenses, except for the "Muslim World" which has been forced to act as a Sitting Duck, and only has to Con a Phrase:
"VIRTUAL WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION" which conveniently move from
country to country to facilitate and Justify their Invasion...


Evidence for what I am saying is reported in the news here in this link:
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=88082§ionid=351020602
I am keeping the actual posting in full-since in the future the LINK may be removed,
as has happened in the past. Being somewhat a careful person I like to retain evidence.
In particular later link may be changed, so I do want to accused of lying.
Copy of the news blip in the link above:
Russia signals entry into space arms race
Tue, 10 Mar 2009 07:28:00 GMT


The US Navy launched a modified SM-3 missile (above) from the Aegis cruiser "USS Lake Erie" to hit a rapidly descending dead US spy satellite.
Russia is working on a form of technology that would enable it to target satellites in space, says a source familiar with the program.

Russian deputy defense minister, General Valentin Popovkin, said while Russia opposes a space arms race, it would not let steps by other countries toward space militarization go unanswered, Russian news agencies reported.

"We can't sit back and quietly watch others doing that; such work is being conducted in Russia," said Gen. Popovkin.

Popovkin, who previously served as the chief of Russian military Space Forces, claimed that Russian technicians had already developed some "basic, key elements" of such weapons but did not elaborate on details.

His remarks came in response to a question about US and Chinese tests of anti-satellite weapons.

In February 2008, the US struck a dying satellite with missiles launched from a Navy cruiser. Earlier in 2007, a Chinese missile destroyed one of its own aging satellites.

Russia and the United States are the only two nations to have successfully performed anti-satellite weapons tests.

The tests have sparked international criticism with many countries arguing that such tests would lead to space weaponization and an arms race.

Despite widespread condemnation, the US has long resisted a global treaty banning such tests, saying it needs "freedom of action in space".

Adding to the concerns in Moscow was the last month collision of US and Russian satellites.

Former head of Russia's military space intelligence, major general Leonid Shershner has told the daily Moskovski Komsomolez that the US Iridium 33 satellite involved in the collision was part of a US military research project launched in 2007.

The dual-purpose project -- Orbital Express -- mentioned by the former space official aims to create a new technology that supports a broad range of future US national security and commercial space programs.

The project, Shershner said, was expected to allow the US to intercept and manipulate "hostile satellites" and destroy them from an earth-bound command center.

According to the general, the collision that occurred on Feb. 10 could have been easily avoided since the Iridium 33 was equipped with a navigation system able to detect any targets that move toward it, send information to earth and allow the ground center to change its orbit.

Unfortunately, such preventive measures did not occur, Shershner added.

The Russian ex-official insisted that the collision is proof that the incident was manipulated by officials in Washington.

CS/AA

Evidence /Reference/Cross-Checking:
We should cross-check. The above was put by Iranian news channel.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/russia-signals-entry-into-space-arms-race.html

Evidence-Reference-News
And finally it was also reported here too and many other places:
Please note I like this website since it work against propaganda,
that is why the name dprogram:
http://dprogram.net/2009/03/10/russia-signals-entry-into-space-arms-race/

If you are interested in this issue of Space Weaponization, Wikipedia
is a good source to start:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militarisation_of_space

labelle nation
Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:04 PM
I would like India to take care of their own people in Calcutta & other places living in abject poverty,Try to raise the standard of living in all the states of India Including the occupied Kashmir.
Then only India would be shining for everybody in India.going to heavens without taking care of earthlings is plain stupid.
The same goes for the mighty(maybe not any more)USA to take care of Americans before going on the far away places.
Let us take of the mess at earth before being big shots in heavens, Only heaven knows how big a big shots we are.
Desoc
Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:59 AM
Prof. Dr.:

This copy/pasted article (mostly) is plagiarism. Summarize and give the link, but don't copy/paste articles.
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Friday, March 13, 2009 3:28 AM
With all due respect, it is not, I have posted the link, since it just a news clip, used here, as evidence to support what I am saying. Thanks, it is better since you guys still do not understand
the difference between what you submit as evidence, as opposed to copying someone's work.
Also I am just informing since it was not discussed in main media-
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Tuesday, March 10, 2009 4:27 AM
I want to comment briefly on:"""""""""""""""
Despite widespread condemnation, the US has long resisted a global treaty banning such tests, saying it needs "freedom of action in space". """"""""""""""""

by saying Why the Main Mass Media, like CNN and FOX news do NOT Discuss, these
much more dangerous issues, instead of wasting time on much less pressing issues?

The answer of course is clear to most of us on this website: It does not make
for good propaganda, at this given time-

Since the current Bogeey man is Islam/Muslims/Talibans/X/Y/Z and their Virtual WMD's
labelle nation
Tuesday, March 10, 2009 12:21 PM
In USA the elected officials say what they have to get elected and stay in the hot seats,
In Iran or any other place why should be any different,

So is politics about serving people or fooling people,are political leaders being unfairly judged,is it too much to expect?. If there is honesty and general goodwill and genuine desire to serve their people & the world there will be peace on earth,Otherwise the politicos r fooling themselves and others
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 2:23 AM
chatman
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:37 AM
It's an agency problem. The people entrust politicians with the power to look after their "good." But these elected agents inevitably cannot look after the diffuse interests of the public, because the electorate at large isn't organized or passionate enough to explain what the public good actually is. Indeed, what's good for some isn't good for others.

How do legislators measure something as amorphous as the public good generally? What usually happens is that organized special interests, seeking acquire legislative benefits, act in an organized manner to convince legislators that acting in their interest serves the public good. In so doing, these small, organized groups secure certain favored treatment, while distributing the costs of such treatment onto the population at large. This behavior is relatively costless to elected officials, because it is hard for an apathetic populace to trace an increase in their cost of living to particular pieces of legislation benefitting special interests. Of course there are collective costs, but if you bury those in enough administrative red tape and thousand page legislative enactments, the costs become nigh impossible to measure, or trace to any particular legislator.

It's nice to think that government and politics is centered around the lofty ideal of assuring the public good, but there's nothing about the public good that is definite, or necessarily easy to qualify objectively. That's why organized interests have such an easy time manipulating legislative views of what it means to serve the common interest.
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:50 AM
You write very well-The point is, in my opinion in order to represent the "common good"
in the world today , it is high time we use technology to replace the politicians!. It is better to have
only local systems which represent small populations on the order of small city-village which are brought together by technology-to represent the larger global good-when the need arises-

The two-party system type of democracy needs to be changed.
When change is such a buzzword-I wonder why no body discusses
changing the current political system, such as the two-party systems?
Desoc
Thursday, March 12, 2009 11:35 AM
Oh Boy! Where to start?
Replacing politicians with technology!??? How on earth would that work? Politics is simply the collective decision-making of a society. How on earth, for instance, is the US going to decide what kind of a health care system they have if we replace national politicians with "technology"???? Technology can't think and decide democratically.

Democracy is simply: "Government by the governed". Anybody who really understands what Aldous Huxley was trying to say in Brave New World understands that technology is very much a part of the potential (and actual) horrible manipulation of the population by a tiny minority through...technology.

Technology can certainly be used to further democracy. Look at the incredible potential to reach out to people via the internet. That is one of the amazing things that Obama accomplished. While Hillary depended on a 20th-century-type, top-down, authoritarian, centralized campaign (that failed miserably), Obama reached out to over 13 million people (mostly young) with Facebook and other ciberspace technological 'tools' to organize in a highly decentralized 21st century campaign that left the others way behind. Technology is a tool; it can't 'replace' politicians. You're now talking about fasc..m.

Read the following article about databases and how they can be used to control and manipulate the population by politicians and bureaucrats who need less and less contact with real people and can profile us deeply to affect our lives without us knowing....very much in a Brave New World kind of scenario.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/simon-carr/simon-carr-databases-will-be-the-ruin-of-us-all-1640173.html

I don't think you're very informed. EVERYBODY criticizes the 2-party system that has become so hard to dislodge in the US. (Great Britain, France, Canada, Austrailia, etc., etc., etc., have several parties and if two tend to dominate, that's politics...)

Ralph Nader gets millions of votes from people who agree with him that the US needs other parties. Every left-winger in the US complains about the difficulty of successfully launching other parties. Ross Perot, with all his billions, could only get 18% or so (enough to allow Clinton to win in '92) but couldn't launch a successful 3rd party.
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Friday, March 13, 2009 2:46 AM
Let me try to clarify:
"Replacing politicians with technology!??? How on earth would that work? Politics is simply the collective decision-making of a society. How on earth, for instance, is the US going to decide what kind of a health care system they have if we replace national politicians with "technology"???? Technology can't think and decide democratically."
The short answer. In the first stage. We can start at the very basic level. People will vote issue by issue, such as, Universal Health Care, or do we need WMDs? Once the votes are in.
They will be counted and then people will be allowed to select people to represent the views
which got the most votes. In this way we will harness Human thought dynamically to tell us
the "collective will"- and we will be able to "understand" the spectrum of thought- The basic
point is to eliminate the corrupt politicians to represent the "collective" will which they do not any ways-In contrast to what you are saying this is an-antithesis or opposite of the machine driven world-In this case people control machines. Also this will eliminate all the cheating the politicians do with there glitzy promises and mind and emotional control-People will be encouraged to think-Stated another way: Why not use the technology now to our advantage to create a wide variety of human interactions to decide on issues by bypassing the crooked politicians-The other alternative is to take way the advantages politicians enjoy, such as all the perks, this will discourage many of them, and act as a dynamic filter to get rid of many unwanted self-serving ones. Make serving the public a hard job, so no one but the very dedicated will take it-

Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Friday, March 13, 2009 3:06 AM
I am informed enough to see that your objection on this issue is reasonable.
Let me comment on, your objection:
"I don't think you're very informed. EVERYBODY criticizes the 2-party system that has become so hard to dislodge in the US. (Great Britain, France, Canada, Austrailia, etc., etc., etc., have several parties and if two tend to dominate, that's politics...)"
First, Just because EVERYBODY criticizes something, does not mean that it is not important!. On the contrary it means it is a very important issue! We must ask why the two-party system is
difficult to dislodge. The Practical Reason: They have huge corporations and lobbies behind them. And their job is to serve each other, not the public, except to keep the public "happy" and "comfortable" i.e. uninformed. First make a law to limit the size of corporations. A second law to cut off the lobby life support system. And then you will see the two-party system crumble. They are so rigidly placed in our mindset and they have taken us over so much that we have been put in the state of mental despair, so we cannot even fathom to question their existence, let alone get rid of them! Of-course they have survived so long, because the public for many reasons has not made a SERIOUS concerted effort to displace them.

In the context of the example of Ross Perot that you cited: I have this to say: Ross Perot fought the election and went home. He should stay with his objectives i.e. weakening the two party system, in the first phase. Next he should have teamed with Ralph Nader, for the SOLE purpose to further weaken the two-party system. And for lack of better way use the iterative method, which is used in mathematics to solve problems. Step by step weakening the two party system, in a persistent manner. As it is quite plain to see it is a non-trivial problem and will requires years of consistent and dedicated work, not just during the election season. I have to admit it is a very intractable problem simply due to the powers behind it-
Salam is Incognito
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:27 PM
I hope Eric Margolis could write about espionage and how these secret cells work in collaboration with other international agencies backed up by major governments worldwide.

chatman - I am sensing a well read character with a rational political analytical mindset. For this reason, would you be able to recommend a book on the CIA, or Mossad, or any other spying agency with an extreme clandestine record in recent years, I happen to enjoy reading about how the intelligence apparatus works, thinks and operates. I prefer to be well informed in advance should I accidentally meet an agent. Thanks.
chatman
Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:00 AM
I appreciate your kind words. I unfortunately can't recommend anything from firsthand experience, but I recently read a pretty good book on the Arab-Israeli conflict called "The Iron Wall," by Avi Schlaim. Some pro-Israeli elements label Schlaim's work as revisionist, but I think it puts the current Israeli situation, and the development of Mossad, in a balanced and meaningful historical context.
Desoc
Thursday, March 12, 2009 11:05 AM

chatman
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:37 AM


Hard to disagree with you except that I don't think it's that difficult to decipher 'what the public wants' on the important issues. The US public got terribly spooked by 9/11 and horribly manipulated by the Bush gang in the weeks and months that followed. But it didn't take all that long for the public to turn against Bush and his horrible invasion of Iraq. The public was overwhelmingly right on that on in the medium term.

Look at what happened with Social Security. The fas....t right wingers have been against that program from the very beginning and privatizing it was one of the major points on Karl Rove's list of changes to bring about after obtaining a second mandate for Bushie boy. The public deeply understood that Social Security is an excellent social program with extremely low admin costs and that does precisely what it was supposed to do: provide at least some income to seniors and the disabled. Bushie Boy's attempt to privatize SS blew up gloriously in his face, to the point that support for his approach went down instead of up as he toured the country to promote his privatization scheme.

Noam Chomsky is considered an extreme left-winger by the corporate media, a ridiculous exaggeration, but he is left-wing. Yet he demonstrates again and again that on key issues of education, health care, etc., the public is very much in agreement with his positions when polled intelligently.

The inside-the-beltway gang--politicians, lobbyists, and corporate media 'reporters'--are way to the right of the general population on the real issues. But we keep getting the left/right divide being defined according to silly wedge issues like gay marriage, gun control, abortion, etc. (These are not at all silly to lots of people who are affected by public policy affected by raving right-wing lunatics....I know. But these issues are not the serious bread-and-butter issues that really concern people when you get right down to it.)

But the right-wing crowd and their media lackeys get a lot of mileage out of those emotional wedge issues that divide people who actually have similar attitudes on the real issues. There is no easy answer here but reducing the incredible importance of $$$ in elections would be a good start: public financing of some sort as is the case in other countries that have a more sane approach to 'democracy'.
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Friday, March 13, 2009 2:30 AM
You said " Noam.......intelligently." Obviously like everyone I like what Noam Chomsky has to say most of the time. My question to you is, while I was discussing him with someone who was on the inside of the left-wing politics/liberal [whatever label ] told me, something thought provoking :Noam Chomsky is a dis-information junkie for the CIA! Is this a common view among the left-wing intelligentsia. How far is this statement true?
ys
Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:00 PM
The Afghan War is there to extend instability, piecemeal throughout the region and especially to keep Russia and China away from the general Afghan area:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhSVQFm9sf0&feature=channel_page
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 2:28 AM
ys
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 2:58 AM
damn repeat posts.

ignore inore
ys
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 2:39 AM
But it is not the only reason it is there.
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 2:41 AM
Of-course-one of the other is, as already mentioned, exploitation of energy resources-
ys
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 2:59 AM
no...sigh...the attempts to get at the Central Asian oil via Unocal and/or Bridas are a red herring. Maybe they are simply preventing India, China or Russia from reaching Central Asian oil. Maybe its an attempt to plant bases close to Pakistan, Iran, China and Central Asia. Maybe Nato wants to help Chinese rebels sometime in the future. Maybe this is a team building exercise with live firing to keep Nato together and with America. Maybe its just that North America had to look like it took revenge.

Maybe its none of these.

Maybe its all of these.

Maybe its something else.
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:02 AM
Maybe, stay with maybe!
ys
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:08 AM
About Eric's article, I have to say, as usual its a good round up of the general nuclear situation in the world. The financial meltdown seems a bigger threat than anything the world can throw at North America. I've been informed Detroit looks like its bee hit by a neutron bomb.
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 4:36 AM
Movement for the Complete Elimination of WMDs: Since every reasonable person wants to get
rid of WMDs: It will be useful to hear creative and effective ideas for their total elimination-
Please enlighten me.
chatman
Thursday, March 12, 2009 2:57 PM
I disagree; many very reasonable persons like the idea of minimum sufficient deterrence arsenals. WMD's, especially the nuclear variety, can be stabilizing in certain situations. We should not categorically presume they are bad. Everyone worried about South Asia when India and Pakistan publicly brandished their nuclear arsenals. Yet, the immediate aftermath of the Pokhran blasts was actually growing stability in cross border relations. India no longer harbored fantasies of being able to liquidate Pakistan through its vastly superior numbers. Of course there is potential for serious accidents, but a comprehensive system of mutual information sharing and early warning systems should forestall false alarms. It's not an ideal system to be sure, but it's better than it was.

Were Iran to develop an nuclear insurance policy of its own, it might reduce the ability of Western powers to dominate the regions political and economic norms. It may be destabilizing from a Western perspective, but it could be enormously stabilizing from a Persian point of view.

To push for the global elimination of nuclear weapons is utopian fantasy. It's not so much a question Western hegemony as it is of human nature. The community of nations is not bound by any unifying principle except defense of sovereignty. Where keeping one's own house safe is the overriding goal in a lawless world, having big weapons is important. This is hardly a uniquely Western worldview.

If Western neo-imperialism is your ailment of concern, nuclear weapons placed in the hands of 'subservient' nations is a pretty powerful antidote. Just ask the Indians.

That said, given the example of Pakistan, I would qualify my statements by noting that nuclear weapons are not a sufficient means for immunizing one's country from external intermeddling.
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Friday, March 13, 2009 4:16 AM
Thanks for presenting your point of view:
"I disagree; many very reasonable persons like the idea of minimum sufficient deterrence arsenals. WMD's, especially the nuclear variety, can be stabilizing in certain situations. We should not categorically presume they are bad."
It is not a question of only good or bad. But do they stabilize?. Many have argued, like yourself that they do. But my point of view they are simply not Necessary. Why not: Even die hard military types will agree that Fission [if they know any physics, which they certainly do] and simple terms they would kill indiscriminately. What if one malfunctions? For the paranoid, and even other reasonable people who worry about "stability" . Science and technology nowadays allow for much more sophisticated and discriminating weapons. So even die-hard military types have less and less excuses to used the stability criteria to justify its claim.
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Friday, March 13, 2009 4:47 AM
About "Lawless" World: This one I simply think is over-exaggerated. After all the killings G W Bush has done of Pukhtun people. "You" [meaning people in world, especially westerners] are led to believe that given the slightest chance we will massacre you. Using myself as a mirror, since I am just ordinary human, I can assure you that if I met any westerner in a dark alley I have no interest in killing him/her. Yes, i think the main problem is your military aggressive types, who are creating I think un-necessary and pointless wars, from the basic human point of view.
Of-course as already discussed these wars serve other purposes. that is why I said, pointless and un-necessary from human point of view.
chatman
Friday, March 13, 2009 6:39 PM
What are you talking about? My invocation of lawlessness is not a carte blanche for you to recite the evils of the Bush Administration; I am quite aware of its policies, and how current officials might perpetuate them.

When I say "lawless world," I refer to the absence of any overarching law or enforcement authority governing the conduct of nations. There are customary norms, but they are routinely forgotten when important strategic goals are at issue.

The only credible law between nations are those they negotiate among themselves, and in order to effectively negotiate and perpetuate mutually respectful arrangements, nations must have bargaining power. In the old but still relevant paradigm, this bargaining power flows from strength of arms. Being able to credibly threaten nuclear annihilation is a pretty remarkable thing when negotiating even the most ordinary of trade agreements. When a nation can make a viable claim towards protecting its sovereign interests, it entitles itself to the respect of other nations who would otherwise loot or subvert it. There may be other factors (common culture, etc.) which might give a great nation pause before subsuming a lesser one, but nuclear weapons are still the best deterrent in a world where no police force will come to the aid of an aggrieved state in the crosshairs of an armed and opportunistic aggressor.
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Friday, March 13, 2009 4:41 AM
I like the way you write your language. To address you point, viz:
"To push for the global elimination of nuclear weapons is utopian fantasy. It's not so much a question Western hegemony as it is of human nature. The community of nations is not bound by any unifying principle except defense of sovereignty. Where keeping one's own house safe is the overriding goal in a lawless world, having big weapons is important. This is hardly a uniquely Western worldview."
Point One: I do not agree that this is utopian fantasy. why I say that? Since it is not
in human nature to use fission on each other, until you are simply perverse. This is
universal. If we inform everyone of the humans, I bet you 99% would reject the use
of fission, and even 95% will reject it as a deterrent. In particular when it is explained to them that there are other ways of defense, which are more than effective.
Point two: How much of the resources are wasted in keeping these indiscriminate monsters?.
If this is explained to people, they will reject it on economic basis alone.
Point three: It will be much more useful to direct these wasted resources to Fusion,
so that we can solve the energy problem for all practical purposes.
Point Four: If deterrence is the rationale, what is the logic behind, "exponentially"
large number of nuclear war-heads which can be launched from air, sea, land and now space!?
Point 5: I cannot ask the Indians, since it is difficult to get a straight answer from them.
However, their aims are very ambitious and go much more than a few nuclear bombs.
They want to use nuclear technology, to project power, which is wrong.
Point 6: In the big picture I like most people are averse to any HEGEMONY, so it is not a question of western hegemony. But of Hegemony period. That is why we need a balance of power as I have mentioned in my other posts.
Point 7: In fact it would be worse, if we have the Indians pretending as westerners or being like them and exerting their hegemony.
These points indicate strongly that to decouple the current power system from its several tentacles, which just makes us insecure and hate each other. We should make a sincere effort
to get rid of this indiscriminate deterrence.

In the overall Big Picture it goes more then the issue of deterrence, to get rid of any
Hegemony we must get rid of Nuclear Weapons, because both are strongly linked in the current system of geo-politics-military power structure.
chatman
Saturday, March 14, 2009 4:31 AM
I will respond to your points in seriatim below.
(1) Your focus on the use of ‘fission,’ or ‘fusion’ against others misses the point. Whether we are dealing with MIRV’ed warheads or Maxim guns, the maintenance of potent arms has historically been quite popular. While experiencing the consequences of a war firsthand may cool a culture’s ardor for weaponizing, most people the world over favor nuclearization by their respective nations. The pursuit of such weapons has enjoyed widespread popular support in every nation that has pursued them. They are a proxy for national strength and inviolable sovereignty. People urge nuclearization despite their recognition of what nukes do. Even scholars who are aware of the uninhabitability of the nuked ruins, or the disastrous climate changes caused by nuclear exchanges, advocate “minimum sufficient deterrence” regimes.

Furthermore, you are wrong in assuming that some sense of empathy for the plight of others might temper human impulses toward brutality. I can’t tell you how many Americans gleefully voyeur night-camera videos of JDAM’s leveling Iraqi city blocks, or C-130 gunships vaporizing individual Afghan “terrorists” fleeing for their lives. If you can effectively demonize an enemy, you can dehumanize their deaths in the face of any weapon, atomic or otherwise
.
(2) Again, people are aware that strategic nuclear arsenals are enormously expensive, yet continue to support their maintenance and upkeep. India’s and Pakistan’s efforts were incredibly costly, yet the politicians who supported nuclear development enjoyed a tremendous burst of public support.

(3) That is beside the point. Obviously money saved in one place can be directed elsewhere. But that does not obviate the popular desire for security, and potency in an international sphere; energy security is only one part of that equation.

(4) That’s easy; you need to retain ‘retaliatory strike’ capability to strike fear into the heart of a potential aggressor. The reason why the Russians and Americans have thousands of nukes is because each side feared that the other might deploy an immobilizing first strike. While a target nation may be effectively destroyed by such an assault, it can assure that the aggressor will pay in kind as the dying target launches an equally destructive counterattack. One way to preserve retaliatory capability is to have more weapons than an enemy can destroy, deliverable via platforms that are immune to an initial attack. This is “mutually assured destruction.”

Eric has already discussed how a “land-air-sea” delivery triad forms an almost immutable security guarantee, since it is unlikely that any first strike could wipe out thousands of warheads mounted in hardened silos, mobile truck launchers, submarines, and long-range strategic bombers.

(5) Why is that wrong? Every nation wants nuclear weapons to project power. That may be offensive or defensive, but ultimately, it is an incident of sovereignty to protect the interests that guarantee the prosperity of your people. Nuclear weapons give you a better seat at the bargaining table. India’s aims in this regard are no more wrong than those of Russia, China, the United States, France, Pakistan, or Iran.

(6) Then let everyone have minimum sufficient deterrence arsenals. That would balance power out quite nicely, since any aggressive action by a particular nation would entail devastating domestic costs.

Don’t imagine for one moment that any established nuclear state will voluntarily relinquish its arsenals… not in this century. If even one country retains the bomb, it secures hegemony.

The only way to make these weapons disappear is to render them obsolete or unnecessary… in other words, either develop better weapons, or establish total economic interdependence.

(7) Westerners were some of the world’s best hegemonists, but that does not mean that modern Eastern efforts to establish regional primacy are “copycatting” Europe or America. Empires have sought to dominate their neighbors for millennia. Nuclear weapons represent the new and terrifying price of entry into the imperial game. They are not the disease…. they’re just a symptom.

manzoor ahmed
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 1:50 PM
we should not expect miracles from obama , world has too many expectations , we should not forget in aferican continent there is hardly any white or brown ruling.probably the change he talked was from white to black president.
he is human being long list to do hope he survived from all kind of pressure.many issues like pelistine ,kashmir afghanistan iraq, and pakistan, on top USA economy.god bless him
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Friday, March 13, 2009 6:14 AM
But we can expect Drone attacks from him against the pukhtuns.
Calvin
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:03 PM
The column I would really love to see by Eric would be the one that focuses on all the people displaced by Bush's illegal invasion/ occupation of Iraq. What really gets me p.o.'d is the very small number of refugees the good ol' U.S of A has taken in since it saw fit to destroy that country, setting it back years. You break it you damn well better buy it. I, personally don't think Obama has what it takes to undue the black eye Dubya has given America and Americans in general, worldwide. Now that the soft glow of Hollywood's love affair with Obama is subsiding, the harsh light of reality will shine on him. Showing he's got a great face for the media, with his million dollar smile. But an empty suit with no sense of what or where he's going to take the floundering American empire. Cynical? Maybe. But, unfortunately, that's probably where this is all going.
Calvin
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 9:23 PM
Saddam Hussein was a tyrant, egomaniac and an iron fisted dictator. I sure as hell am not going to defend him. I'm sure Eric wouldn't either. But is post Saddam Iraq really a safer and better place to live. Sure don't seem that way. Many places are still without electricity, running water and the most basic of needs. Jobs for young Iraqi men and women are scarce. If the U.S is so concerned about other countries' dictators and despots mistreating their own citizens, why don't they focus on regime change in Saudi Arabia and other gulf states. Saudi Arabia has a rich track record for abuse of its own people. Women are treated like garbage and have no rights whatsoever. First Iraq was invaded under the premise of WMD's. This was never proven, so the liberation of the Iraqi people was bantered about. Sure they eventually captured Saddam and tried him in a kangaroo court, but at what cost? Iraq is not a better place now than 20 years ago. The photo ops of soldiers handing out toys and candy to Iraqi children are just that. Photo ops. Phony and shallow, just to impress the people back home. Iraq is not safer now under the U.S. installed puppet regime under al Maliki, and probably worse off. Sure, Saddam got what he deserved, but look at the cost of bringing him to trial and executing him. They might as well have hung him with a gold braided rope.
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:56 AM
WMDs. Coming back to the topic of WMDs after wasting time, on useless
discussion about sentence structure and other trivial matters. Anyone with any degree of compassion must feel, sympathy for the plight of afghan people, as they have been subjected to depleted uranium [DU for short] and other weapon systems that were tested on them, such as JDAM etc…I want to draw the attention of people to
reference given below. And the book by Muhammad Daud Miraki, in which, he
reinforces the view that we have been sharing on this website, viz, in short : It exposes the total fraud of the Afghan War, and related issues. The one in particular that I want
to emphasize here is the genocide committed by the US government through the use of uranium weapons and the consequences of these weapons of mass destruction particularly congenital deformities.

Reference: http://www.afghanistanafterdemocracy.com/index.html

About resulting deformities from DU:

Reference:

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=Depleted+Uranium&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=aMq4SevlC9XJkAXc9OyuCA&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title

If you cannot access it, type depleted uranium and you can get a pretty good
idea of this hidden terrorism:

What is Depleted Uranium?
You can find some explanation here:

Reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium

About effects of Depleted Uranium, from WHO:

Reference:
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs257/en/


Desoc
Thursday, March 12, 2009 11:42 AM
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Thursday, March 12, 2009 2:12 AM
This is just a humorous remark, but for some it may carry meaning-
WMDs and Pukhtunwali Code:In the Pukhtunwali code [ a social code of pukhuns] you must protect your guest even if he is your enemy! Perhaps now we should extend this code, with the following additions and clarifications: By the Grace of God we will protect you if you are our guest, even in the face of the following dire possibilities: The Group trying to eliminate the guest has WMDs, DU-WMDs, JDAM, Predator Drones with hell fire missiles, thermobaric weapons, and other endless series of weapons that can vaporize you. It also does not matter who the enemy of the Guest is, as long it not God Almighty Himself..
goodgenie
Friday, March 13, 2009 10:18 AM
Decent but disgruntled Muslims see the Irag invasion as an Anglo American conspiracy. since then Iran and US leaders have been bad mouthing each other. The caricuture of the English sucking up to the Americans and Hamas and Hisbullah sucking up to Iran. What a waste of energy it has proven to be; a bankrupt strategy.
Time for the U.S. to press the reset button. Frankly they should ignore Iran's antics. The Iranian people will then get to hear the merits of their mullah's pronouncements and dead silence from the west. These guys survive on demonizing idiotic moves by western leaders e.g. WMD show and tell by Powell that sounded like a PHD thesis justifying the war.

The Iranians need to get ulcers by the silence and wonder when the other shoe will drop!. Will it be Israel, will it be the USA ? These are the two nations that have a reputation for either over achieving when they act or strong believers in overkill. The British have lost their appetite for this type of brinkmanship.
These tested risks are the only low cost strategies in the face of Iran's compelling need for building clout in the region. Frankly there is merit in this effort given the disaster that was the war with Iraq. They and their people have to f et over where to draw the line in the sand or misjudge the resolve of their adversaries at a cost that will set them back decades. Ther are no angels or demons in this guessing game; just national interests.
Musaddiq Virk
Friday, March 13, 2009 1:29 PM
A person could be an Angel or Demon, depending on his attitude towards society. People who steal or rob are always portrayed as Demons in human society. Nations who rob other nations can not justify their robberies by calling it National Interest.
goodgenie
Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:01 PM
Absolutely correct. Bit as Mr.Mushraff struggled to explain Mr Bush. The "Ground Realities" are not set up to fit the morality or logic. Things in Pakistan are worse now that he is gone.

If I can run faster than you to grab the only food available, after repeatedly doing it with my eyes shut, the world will brand me a thief. Competitive advantage and self interest be damned?
Domestic and foreign policies affecting trade are at work this way every minute of the day. No one likes to lose.
Canadian Crow
Saturday, May 16, 2009 11:08 PM
Country of the size of Israel can not take chances when Iran officials say openly and without shame that they wipe out Jewish state out of existence. No matter how many submarines Israel keeps at Iran cost, no matter how devastating for Iran Israel retaliatory strike would be, when one atomic bomb exploded over the country of New Jersey size, that would mean end for Israel. After the first Holocaust took place near 70 years ago, while “civilized” Europeans were standing by and watching, Jews can not and will not wait for Iran to develop “at least ten warheads”. I can not wait to see when Israel make Iran look like dusty moon landscape – this would have been the best warning and proof to everybody on this planet what “Never Again” means for Jews.
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