A HERETIC IS PUNISHED IN WASHINGTON
NEW YORK March 16, 2009
The White House publicly humiliated US National Intelligence Director, Adm. Dennis Blair last week by forcing him to cancel appointing veteran diplomat Charles W. Freeman Jr. as the chairman of the National Intelligence Council, one of the nation’s most important national security posts.
 The National Intelligence Council chairman’s job is to assemble all reports from America’s 16 intelligence and produce a synthesis upon which the president make national security policy. 
 
A  former ambassador to Saudi Arabia and  respected Mideast and China expert,  Freeman had the audacity  to previously say,  `left to its own devices, the Israeli establishment will make decisions that harm Israelis, threaten all associated with them, and enrage those who are not.’ 
 
Freeman has criticized Israel’s actions on other occasions. He committed the ultimate heresy of warning that close US collaboration with Israel’s rightwing parties was jeopardizing American interests and security, and generating anti-American terrorism.
 
A  firestorm ensued as the outspoken Freemen touched the `third rail of American politics.’  A former high official of the Israel Lobby, who has been charged with passing classified information to Israel, had the chutzpah to kick off a vicious slander campaign against Freeman.  Sen. Joseph Lieberman and other pro-Israeli politicians  took up the cry. The Obama administration was forced to ask Freeman to `resign’ after lamely claiming it had not been informed of his appointment.  
 
The  Israel Lobby has been crowing, and rightly so.  Freeman’s  public lynching sent a clear message to politicians,  officials, and media:  fail to toe the party line on Israel and risk losing your career.  
 
One also suspects the public humiliation of Admiral Blair may  have been linked to his denials that Iran was making nuclear weapons.  Blair had recently reaffirmed the National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) finding that Iran is not producing nuclear weapons.  This finding enraged the Washington war party.
 
Freeman’s rejection confirms the decisive influence of pro-Israel groups over the Obama administration’s Mideast policies.   It is an evil portent for Israelis and Arabs seeking peace.
 
Hillary Clinton was named Secretary of State in part to placate American supporters of Israel, many of whom doubted Barack Obama’s commitment to continuing the Bush administrations unlimited support of Israel’s rightwing parties.   
 
She, in turn,  named Dennis Ross Special Advisor for Iran and the Gulf.  Ross has long been linked to Israel and associated with the Israel Lobby.  Imagine the uproar if an American Muslim noted for pro-Palestinian positions was named Washington’s Special Advisor to Israel.
 
Take candidate Obama’s promises to the Israel lobby that he would never pressure the Jewish state into a peace deal it opposed, and his assurances that Jerusalem would remain undivided.   Add Obama remaining almost mute while Israel was pounding Gaza into ruins with US weapons.
 
Now comes the humiliation of Freeman and Adm. Blair, and the State Department’s tilt towards Israel.  All this adds up to a `new’ US Mideast policy that may be not so different from that of President Bush, except perhaps for less overt antagonism toward Iran – at least for a while- and occasional chirps about aiding `moderate’(read: obedient) Palestinians.
 
No change in the US-Israeli equation means no change in Israel’s policy of stalling on creation of a viable Palestinian state. Israel is speeding up  building settlements on the West Bank and Golan.   The advent of rightist Bibi Netanyahu as Israel’s new prime minister will intensify these expansionist trends.  Unlike his predecessors, Netanyahu at least has the honesty to openly say he won’t stop settlements or accept a real Palestinian state.
 
Which, of course, means no Arab-Israeli peace in the Mideast for the foreseeable future.   Israel and its American supporters will retain their grip on US Mideast policy.  The Freeman affaire ends any hope held by many Americans and Mideasterners that President Obama would have the political courage to change course on the Mideast and nudge Israel and the Palestinian factions into a real land for peace deal – the only possible basis for peace in the Arab-Israeli conflict. 
 
President Obama is moving sharply to the left in domestic affairs by starting to implant European-style socialist polices in America, nationalizing banks, supporting failed industries, raising taxes and running  up monster deficits. 
 
But, interestingly, Obama’s foreign policy has veered far to the right from his original anti-war, reformist image.  US military spending still remains absurdly high, accounting for 50% of the world’s total.  The US armed forces are being rapidly reconfigured for `expeditionary and counter-insurgency warfare’ in the Third World - what was once known as `colonial warfare.’  
 
Obama promised 30,000 US troops would reach Afghanistan.  Most alarmingly, after promising the US would get out of Iraq, President Obama now plans to keep some 50,000 American `training’ troops there and large numbers of mercenaries. 
 
Most of the 90,000 US troops slated to be withdrawn from Iraq will be sent to Afghanistan, provided Iraq does not boil up again.  New US bases are being built or expanded, and new supply routes sought through Central Asia and even Iran.   In other words, a growing stay and long presence.  
 
This sounds more like the Imperial-talking Bush than the so-called `anti-war’ Barack Obama.    
 
 
copyright  Eric S. Margolis 2009
 
 
Rampart
Monday, March 16, 2009 2:57 PM
Israel is evil, true... but they at least have an excuse. Either that or go jump in the ocean. (mind you, this is not to excuse their murderous ways... I'm just saying)

The United States on the other hand.... there is a special place in Hell reserved for them, the officious meddlesome petty little corrupt boot-lickers they are.

But why think of such things?

Watch this instead. "Flowershow 2009"!!! Screw the rest of the world.

Vimeo link:
http://www.vimeo.com/3648559

YouTube links:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppR2TdKkk6w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUCmaaPOgXU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAX5JzcmTQs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZOzRfIUMsU

Take some time out and smell the flowers.

Market Socialist
Monday, March 16, 2009 3:27 PM
I am sure that the Romans thought that they would last for an eternity, Hitler built the 1000 year Reich.


I fear that the USA is going down the road of a rapid decline, all one has to do is to look at this military expansionism that will not succeed and never has in history. Social decay with in the country and the lost hope of the “Savior President”.

I still hold to the point that in a desperate move to appease the APAC types and divert attention away from AIG bonuses, this administration will enter into a conflict with Iran. Although Iran may not have nukes, this country is not Iraq and yes the Iranians will escalate this conflict.

I am 38 years of age and in my life time I will witness the break up of the US union, not that I am cheering.
Rampart
Monday, March 16, 2009 3:42 PM

---[not that I am cheering.]---

I am.

Can't wait for the day when these hemorrhoids finally exit world stage and leave the rest of us in peace.

chatman
Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:06 AM
Bah. you're such a downer. The American Empire may be doomed to collapse some day, but I hardly think either you or I will be around to see it. At worst, we may become the next UK or France... a relatively wealthy post-imperial power without as much ability to project power and influence. And quite frankly, I would be very pleased with that arrangement.
Rampart
Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:21 PM

---[Bah. you're such a downer.]---

Which is why I linked to the Flower-show video.... to balance the mood.
Desoc
Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:31 PM
Market S****list
Monday, March 16, 2009 3:27 PM

So you are out and out predicting: 1) the US will attack Iran in the next few weeks (to divert attention away from the AIG bonuses...the story won't last that long...) okay we'll give you a few months; and 2) the US as we know it now will be broken up in the next 40 years or so...

Not a chance. By the way, what are you smoking?
chatman
Monday, March 16, 2009 3:22 PM
Did anyone seriously think that Obama would remove all U.S. troops from Iraq? "Withdrawal" does not really mean "complete withdrawal.." it means "leave behind a skeleton presence and usable bases." Troop reductions of 50% or more were fairly in line with my realistic expectations; hopefully we'll at least see that happen. What I am disappointed to see is the redeployment of soldiers from the Iraq theater to the Afghan theater. Then again, Obama did express a campaign commitment to perpetuate the war in Afghanistan, so perhaps this shouldn't be so surprising. I think it's pretty foolish though...

With respect to Israel, investors should really talk to pro-Israel lobbyists when deciding how to make sound investments. The State of Israel has invested less than a billion dollars in purchasing Congress over the last 20 years. However, by purchasing our legislative (and to a lesser extent, our executive) branches, and by inculcating the story of perpetual vulnerability among grassroots Jewish Americans, the Knesset has secured over $3Bn in annual military aid, and an eternal security guarantee. It may not serve American interests, or the interests of the Middle East, to continue this arrangement, but it is unlikely to change until the anti-Zionist and anti-Israel elements learn to wisely allocate their meager resources, and more compellingly state their case.
Musaddiq Virk
Monday, March 16, 2009 8:06 PM
Israel buys the support of 90 to 98 per cent of American congressional representatives through campaign contributions and maintains the biggest spy network of any country operating inside the U.S. When caught, instead of being charged and tried, Israeli spies are more often returned to Israel.
Einstein's Hurricane
Monday, March 16, 2009 11:28 PM
As if anyone thought this situation would change. The policy of both Israel and the US is to bob and weave , and slowly constrict the Palestinian's with the settlements, and then declare it's impossible to reverse. This has been the case for years. Let's face it nobody has the courage to say much of anything when your primary function is to hold the bully's coat. The US does this for Israel, as Canada does for the US. Now Harper's Wrecking Crew is following suit with Israel. This, it seems, is impossible to break as long as the Holocaust is used as a blunt instrument against the North American public's guilty about this terrible event, and the growth of the goofy "born-again" movements rock soild support for slaughter in the name of God. You can hear Gerald Kaufmann, a British MP, denounce Israel on YouTube. Kaufmann, by the way, is Jewish. Any one else says these things and they will be destroyed. Much like Mr. Freeman will be. There's only one lesson I take from this. The strong don't negotiate with the weak and the rich do nothing for the poor. The Zionist movement has got both these things going for them. Strong from US arms and rich with Western guilt.
Unknown Man
Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:07 PM
Exactly right. The only way you can get away with criticizing Izreal or Joooos, is by being Jewish. Anyone else will be pulverized with accusations of racism and anti-semitism. And if you are in the unfortunate predicament of not being Jewish but you still want to criticize Izreal, you can always start with the slightly safer: "I have many Israeli and Jewish friends, but I think...".
ys
Tuesday, March 17, 2009 12:59 AM
This is the kind of "inside" (and under-reported) stroy that Eric is good at. Its good to know what hijinks Israel's left-behind network in the Washington bureaucracy is up to.

And yeah it would definitely be good if Obama withdrew all troops; but hey if Iran rushes in and takes over the influence in that region there ain't a damn thing the US can do cause thats the way the chips will have to fall.

I think Muqtada Al-Sadr derives all his power from the Iraqi slums, so in reality he might actually be their best bet for keeping Iranian influence away. A home-grown power source would ensure a decent amount of independence from Irani influence. And if they withdraw it'll be better than handing the damn thing over to SCIRI (now ISCI) which is completely in thrall to Iran. Nobody says that the Iraqi government is a semi-puppet of Iran, whilst being a total puppet of the United States.

Why is Obama leaving 50,000 troops in Iraq?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfGieb0NQdM&feature=channel_page
Why is Obama leaving 50,000 troops in Iraq? Pt 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGkdEqCgKds&feature=channel_page


And these ones are the most important in how Obama has been sort of "caught" in the Washington defence establishment's bureaucratic web to stay in Iraq:

Petraeus versus the President?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojesepMW6lM&feature=channel_page
Why you should know Gen. Jack Keane
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z2Ld79i-jU&feature=channel_page
Are generals disputing Iraq pullout?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1-AVogNCAQ&feature=channel_page
Blueskies
Tuesday, March 17, 2009 2:18 AM
Once again Kudos to Mr. Margolis for speaking openly about the enormous influence of the Israeli lobby on US foreign policy.

It reminds me of the old saying; “if you want to know where the power lies, then ask who you cannot criticize.”

It’s amazing how “the lobby” can publicly crucify a powerful politician and then accuse anyone who talks of their influence as a paranoid anti-Semite.

Regarding the comments about Obama being left wing on domestic affairs and right wing on foreign policy I think this is a misleading way of looking at things.

Both left wing and right wing politics now advance the size and power of Government. The only difference being while the right wing administration is in power certain departments such as the military typically grow faster and when the left wing administration has its turn other departments such as welfare typically grow faster.

When the politicians switch they never undo the growth of government under the previous administration so you have the continuous growth of the state.

Instead of left and right wing we should rather create a scale with individual freedom on one side and total Government control on the other and measure trends based on that.

Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia were supposedly at opposite ends of the political spectrum and yet had much more in common in terms of centralised Government control and little individual rights as compared to America for example.

The powers that be have realized that overtly suppressing people is dangerous and non-productive so every fours year they allow the political energy of the populace to be exhausted with the great election show where a false choice is presented with each side promising change but actually representing entrenched interests and big Government.

Only once people start to see through the left/right illusion and start to demand real freedom will things actually change.

Market Socialist
Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:18 AM
I usually do not comment on the comments section.

Blueskies....one of the best comments that I have read. You hit the nail right on its head
chatman
Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:59 PM
I like a lot of what you say here. However, when you talk about "real freedom," you can't assume that freedom for individuals can be divorced from freedom for corporations, or their special interest lobbies. It is certainly true that organized, moneyed interests have more influence in government than diffuse constituencies of individuals. But ultimately, these corporations are made up of individual people, acting in a coordinated way. If you were to bar them from incorporating, or engaging other types of business-based association, you infringe on individual freedom.

The simple libertarian view often presumes that every man is an island, and government is an obstacle to exercise of one's liberty. But a collective business organization can restrain liberty just as well as any government. When free individuals collaborate to deprive individuals of certain liberties, who steps in to stop them?

Moreover, the ability of special interest to whisper in government's ear could also be construed as an incident of liberty. Every time they try to pass campaign finance reforms that control access to politicians, they founder upon First Amendment grounds. It's true that corporate entities working together can advocate better, and secure benefits through their collective and strategically applied influence. Given that most special interest legislation confers huge benefits to certain parties, and distributes the costs to the diffuse and unwashed "general public," corporate groups have every incentive to try and manipulate the legislative process. I'm not saying that this is a good thing, but it is, in some ways, quite representative. Instead of representing based on numbers, however, it represents based on the ability to peddle influence.

And lest you argue that money is the sole determinant of influence peddling ability, I would point out that there are many lobby groups, working in the public interest, whose influence in government far exceeds what should be possible, given their meager budgets. Controlling government consists of targeted legislators, grassroots lobbying of constituents, and campaign contributions.

I think your dim view on representative government in the United States overreaches. We are representative, but increasingly, that representation is not pro rata. The numbers have less import than the ability to secure influence. And that ability, like it or not, is an incident of the very freedom you would insist government leave undisturbed.
tiamo
Tuesday, March 17, 2009 3:35 PM
I still don't comprehend how the Israelis allow their government to take them this path. In 50 years, Israel still wasn't able to relief itself from the imagery of being an aggressor, a land thief and a racist nation.

While I understand the surroundings may not have been hospitable for the creation of any state on Palestinian land. Yet, Israel's power greed, ego and corruption made it socially backward 100 years at least.

Until now, the Israelis have not been able to successfully integrate the local Arab population within their system. The Arabs living within Israel own borders are considered a 3rd class citizen after the tribal Arabs and Jews.

Israel claims to democracy, a democracy is as good as the US democracy would have been during the slavery years. A rogue democracy at best.

The Israelis should wake-up and realize if they wish to sustain their existence, secure their and children future, they'll have to build a real democracy, a fair situation. They'll need to compromise with their neighbors and return some of the land back.

The Israelis probably need to do as much or more to the Palestinians as did the Americans provide to the natives.
goodgenie
Tuesday, March 17, 2009 6:13 PM
(1) Obama's support of Isreal was suspect. He has to fix that if he has to nudge them in the direction he wants. The last thing he needs right now is to have assorted honourable and smart team members take shots at Israel and make morality an issue. There is none in the middle east. It's not a promise by any party to start growing angel wings. Hamas believe God is on their side. That thinking can only be proven once they get to heaven and find out first hand. The Israelis tried hard to make it possible when they visited Gaza recently.

There is only one thing that everyone agrees. Land for peace, resulting in two sovereign, viable nations. Frankly if this could be achieved, it would matter not whether they work towards anything other than being good neighbours.
Calvin
Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:09 PM
Whether or not there will be a WW3 in the future is uncertain. This I do know: there will be no peace ion the middle east, at least in my lifetime any. And if WW3 ever does break out, Israel will be front and centre starting it.
Musaddiq Virk
Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:27 PM
DoDaCanaDa
Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:09 PM
Now that mainline media including CNN has introduced concepts like Armageddon, Doomsday, The Abyss and other similar thoughts into the Public Domain, bear in mind the word ¨Armageddon¨ is derived from Har Mediggo located in the occupied territories.

Is it co-incidence or long term planning all of this is now coming into view?
cronkite
Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:09 PM
Obama's spineless. His administration is slowly coming unglued, little by little, drop by drop. Even Warren Buffett criticized him. His Treasury Secretary is a calamity-in-waiting. Obama follows both Bushes, Clinton, in that they hold nothing dear to direct them.

We're in for a bumpy four year ride with this one.
Calvin
Wednesday, March 18, 2009 4:59 PM
And to think they compared Obama to JFK. I don't think so. JFK had the guts to stand up to the Soviets.
chatman
Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:04 AM
You guys are such predictable pessimists! The moment the market begins to recover (and it will), most people will be singing Obama's praises, whether he deserves them or not.
Rampart
Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:23 PM

---[You guys are such predictable pessimists!]---

Oookay.... seen the Flower-show video? Good.

Now watch the Obama Deception video I link to in the post below. All your comments are answered there.

DoDaCanaDa
Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:03 PM
In the Old Testament, one of the fundamental requirements for Israel to exist is to declare a Jubilee Year every 50 years. It is 10 years overdue.

Within the requirements the Jewish people must do during a Jubliee, is the Way to Peace and Accommodation with it´s neighbours.
Musaddiq Virk
Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:20 PM
Sixty million people died in the gigantic crime of Second World War yet a few million Jews continue to remain the center of attention with the other over 90% of victims promptly forgotten.
Rampart
Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:08 PM
DoDaCanaDa
Sunday, March 22, 2009 8:57 AM
An interesting and entertaining movie. For those with a positive pre-disposition toward Obama, they will see positive things in what he is trying to do. For those with a negative pre-disposition, what they see will reinforce that negativity toward him and what he is trying to do.

On February 1, 1975, I had a powerful Spiritual awakening which I, if nobody else, compare to the conversion of Saul on the road to Damascus. It was so powerful and unexpected to me, in the following days and weeks, I believed the Kingdom of Heaven would reveal itself all around the World within 3 years, by 1979.

Obviously I was so wrong and naive in my understanding, I had to learn to adapt to timing and develop patience, without loosing sight of the Goal.

I pray for President Obama, that he keep up the rhetoric and the people follow his lead, eventually taking over leadership. This will not happen overnight. It may take a generation or longer.

Looking at the World through a Spiritual lens, President Obama, lessor National leaders, CEOs and the very secret, very rich are much like Jesus on the mountaintop. The tempter showed him all the Nations with all the glory and wealth of them. ´Worship me and I will give you all of this´, the tempter said. Jesus answered simply, ¨Get lost Satan: for it is written, You shall worship the Lord your God, and him only shall you serve.¨ Not only the rich and powerful are too weak to resist, but the little people too.

As to the public rage that has now taken on a life of it´s own over the haves wanting more while the have not´s are called to sacrifice, no doubt the Universe is unfolding as it should.

My personal reference Bible was printed in 1855 and this is how it describes the temper of these times. It is the same edition on which Ṕresidents Lincoln and Obama took their Oath of Office:

James 5
[1] Go to now, you rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you.
[2] Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are moth eaten.
[3] Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. You have heaped treasure together for the last days.
[4] Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, cries: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth.
[5] You have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; you have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter.
[6] You have condemned and killed the just; and he does not resist you.
[7] Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waits for the precious fruit of the earth, and has long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain.
[8] Be you also patient; establish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord is close.
[9] Grudge not one against another, brethren, lest you be condemned: behold, the judge stands before the door.
[10] Take, my brethren, the prophets, who have spoken in the name of the Lord, for an example of suffering affliction, and of patience.
[11] Behold, we count them happy which endure. You have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.




Desoc
Sunday, March 22, 2009 2:54 PM
DoDaCanaDa
Sunday, March 22, 2009 8:57 AM

What are you doing on a site like this pushing your silly, annoying bible-thumping garbage?
DoDaCanaDa
Monday, March 23, 2009 8:35 PM
My post was in response to viewing the link in the preceding post. If you are offended by anything specific, please point it out and I will address that. Perhaps you have a pre-disposition against anything religious, but I hope other readers could see between the lines. There is temporal and there is Spiritual and they mirror each other.
Rycci
Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:08 AM
We all thought that Obama would take a small majority of American polpular vote and radically change U.S. policy, like Bush did, but he hasn't or can't. Maybe those of us who are hoping for change must rediscover the virtue of patience. The pentagon is ruled by the right wing. Obama can't win them over in his first year. Slow and steady wins the race. I hope.
ys
Friday, March 20, 2009 2:18 AM
Ahem....Gentlemen, May I have Your Attention Please

http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=21052

"Militants turn to Dir districts after Swat"

By Dilawar Jan

PESHAWAR: Militants have shifted their area of activity from Swat — almost reduced to debris by the 20-month militancy — to the twin-districts of Dir, making their intention clear that they would not lay down arms despite provincial government’s flexibility to bring peace to the Swat valley.

Also, the militants have not fully stopped their activities in the restive Swat district despite declaring a permanent ceasefire and agreeing to renounce militancy. The guarantor of peace, Maulana Sufi Muhammad and members of his Tanzim Nifaz Shariat-e-Muhammadi (TNSM) have been defending their activities — kidnappings of officials, attacks on security forces, target killings, armed patrol, etc — on one pretext or the other.

The TNSM blames all on the government, which is being criticised for allegedly capitulating to the militants’ demands.On Wednesday, a bridge in Chamtalai, Swat, was damaged with explosives without any provocation. Almost on daily basis, bullet-riddled bodies are found at roadsides or in fields. Kidnappings are yet to be stopped.

However, despite all alleged violations by the militants, the government has kept a mum, allowing the militants to virtually rule the area. Maulana Sufi Muhammad has been effective to get concessions for the militants, but it is yet to achieve success in making the Taliban stick to the peace accord.

In fact, he attempted to persuade militants to adhere to the deal, but some undesirable elements in the ranks of the Taliban defied the aged cleric. Actually, he does not have the power to stop them by force, as he had promised with the government to do if Nizam-e-Adl was enforced.

Maulana Fazlullah-led militants’ activities in the valley are not new or a matter of surprise, but they have been trying rigorously to extend their sphere of influence to the peaceful areas. A large number of heavily armed men attacked the Malakand University in Chakdara town of Lower Dir district and killed four police and a university sentry. The incident seems unprovoked, as it was not involved in any dispute with the militants.

Sources claimed that militants who were 40 to 60 in number wanted to occupy the varsity. Ridiculously, Malakand Commissioner Syed Muhammad Javed was reported to have said that the attackers were not Taliban, but members of a criminal gang.
Rampart
Friday, March 20, 2009 7:26 AM

Yes they are criminals calling themselves "taliban". Everyone knows that.

Read this:

http://www.shrunklink.com/bxzt

And of course they are going to leave Swat now that they have lost there.

The "taliban"... fake or real... are not our main problem. Our problem is containing the cockroach we call a "President". ... Asif Ali Ghaddari.

ys
Friday, March 20, 2009 6:48 PM
About the cockroach in the aiwan-e-sadr; don't count him out. He is smart, he is ruthless and he will not go down quietly. He didn't get where he is by playing nice.

But Swat; I don't see victory any where. I see a defeat for state and security forces. I see reports of anarchic kidnapping, murder of whoever and only the whispers of an army cantonment springing up in Swat. I am sure a cantoment is a good idea; but by the time it is built, a lot of innocent Pakistani's will be killed in a crossfire or through targetted assasinations (as they are right now). Please pass me the glasses you are wearing so that I can see the victory. I am as deeply invested in a win for the government as you are.

Zardari has a surrender complex. Surrender to the Americans. Surrender to the Taliban. Surrender to Nawaz Sharif. Surrender to Chaudhry Iftikhar. Oh well...

The Taliban have integrated themselves into the local administration.
That was their objective. They have acheived it.
Thus they have won.
Musaddiq Virk
Saturday, March 21, 2009 12:06 AM
Very well said, but this is not the place or forum to discuss our domesitc problems.
ys
Saturday, March 21, 2009 2:42 AM
Thank you Mussadiq Virk. If you can inform me of a pertinent location where I can join you all on this matter.
Musaddiq Virk
Saturday, March 21, 2009 2:34 PM
You'r most welcome, see this post plz.

http://pakistaniat.com/2009/03/19/sufi-mohammad-tnsm
There are currently 36 comments
Comments Commentaries
Currently Ordered By:
Commentaries by Category